I just learnt of this new breed today and i'm interested in finding out more about it. Are they the same as a german shepherd? And the size? Are they similar?
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What's the Difference Between an Alastian and a German Shepherd?
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Exact same breed, were called Alsations in England.
This same question was asked only 2 hours ago……….
Same dog, different names…………
The breed was named Deutscher Schäferhund by Von Stephanitz, literally translating to “German Shepherd Dog”.
The direct translation of the name was adopted for use in the official breed registry; however, at the conclusion of World War I, it was believed that the inclusion of the word “German” would harm the breed’s popularity, due to the anti-German sentiment of the era.
The breed was officially renamed by the UK Kennel Club to “Alsatian Wolf Dog” which was also adopted by many other international kennel clubs. Eventually, the appendage “wolf dog” was dropped. The name Alsatian remained for five decades, until 1977, when successful campaigns by dog enthusiasts pressured the British kennel clubs to allow the breed to be registered again as German Shepherd Dogs
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Shep…
Far from new – except for your “alastian” mis-spelling.
Even your lack of proper-noun punctuation is far from new.
A true answer on the origin of the breed and its incorrect names is:
• 1882 German Sheepdogs are first shown, at Hanover Show.
• 1891 The German Phylax Society forms on 16 December to promote the German Sheepdog. It disbands in 1894.
● 1899 The Verein für deutsche Schäferhund (SV) is formed on 22 April with Max von Stephanitz as president and Artur Meyer as secretary, attracting 60 members that year (reaching 50,000 in 1923, around 100,000 in 1999); it takes responsibility for breed registration and breed direction. Basically, the breed is developed from working stock of 3 “types” found then in the regions of Thuringia, Frankonia and Württemberg. On September 20th the club approves bylaws, opens its Registry and, at the suggestion of Meyer and von Stephanitz, composes the breed-standard to be passed to the VDH (German Kennel Club). The first GSD registered (SZ 1) is Horand von Grafrath, a Thuringian dog originally named Hektor Linksrhein; his parents later receive registrations SZ 153 & 156.
A few GSDs found their way to Western Australia (1904), NAmerica (1906) and Britain before World War 1 but had no Breed Register. In Britain they were usually known as “French Police Dogs”; those that were shown went into the “Other Breeds” classes where they could win prizes but could not become champions.
● 1913 Formation of The German Shepherd Dog Club of America, organised by Benjamin Throop and Anne Tracy
● 1917 Anti-German feeling in the USA sees the breed renamed and its club becomes The Shepherd Dog Club of America until 1931
● 1919 The breed’s first British club is formed. In an attempt to hide the German origin they name the breed Alsatian Wolf Dog. Alsatian derives from the province of Alsace-Lorraine which was sometimes German, sometimes French. The “Wolf” was probably a combination of implying that the dog had to protect the sheep from wolves, and because Germans use “wolf” to describe the grey-sable colouring common in early GSDs, but it backfires with rumours of wolf-crosses. As a consequence there has been a series of name-changes in Britain, and their KC STILL hasn’t got around to registering the dog in its proper 3-word name!
By the way, the German wolf was effectively extinct before 1899, the breed surviving in zoos; at least one such had been crossed with a German sheep dog in Thuringia before the SV was formed.
● 1924 The British Alsatian League is formed.
● 1926 In January the 2 British clubs merge as the Alsatian League & Club of Great Britain. Although in Queen Elizabeth II’s decades Britain’s royal family are better known for Corgis, in at least the period 1924-1934 the 3 princes Edward Prince of Wales (later briefly King Edward VIII), Henry, and George (later King George VI) were involved in Alsatians, most prominent being the Prince of Wales who was a successful competitor in both breed & obedience classes and became an Honorary Member of the Alsatian League & Club
● 1929 Australia bans Alsatian imports. Some states require native-born Alsatians to be de-sexed
● 1931 In January Britain renames the breed “Alsatian”
● 1936 In September Britain renames the breed “Alsatian (German Shepherd Dog)”
● 1972 Australia suspends its ban on importing GSDs. First legal import is NZ.Ch. Casar von Konig who goes to Adelaide’s Gil Sharman. It took until December 24th, 1976 for Western Australia to end the ban.
● 1977 In July Britain renames the breed “German Shepherd Dog (Alsatian)”
Modern reality:
Although to kennel clubs an Alsatian & a GSD are the same, true GSD fanciers see most show-is-all “GSDs” as being NOT GSDs at all. We use sneer-names to show which departure we are referring to: AlsatiOn, German Croucher, NAmerican Ski-Slope Dog, Prick-Eared Basset, Titanic Tail-Tucker, White GSD. Click http://www.leabashiba.com/fashion.vs.GSD.htm for an article (with photos) about some of the divergences plus the genuine type.
Although the foundation ancestors are the same in all cases, the pooches those sneer-names refer to long ago STOPPED being the same, just as American Cockers are no longer the same as hunting Cocker Spaniels.
No, [Dale M] – the true GSD is NOT “aloof” or “reserved”. You’ll find neither word in the International Standard: http://www.fci.be/uploaded_files/166A1991_en.doc The true GSD is bold & curious but has its favourite people.
Les P, owner of GSD_Friendly: http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/GSD_Friendly
“In GSDs” as of 1967
Alsatian, German Shepherd Dog, GSD and Deustcher Schaferhund.
All those names above refer to the same dog breed – the German Shepherd.
The German Shepherd personality is aloof but not usually aggressive. He’s a reserved dog; he doesn’t make friends immediately, but once he does, he’s extremely loyal. With his family he’s easy-going and approachable, but when threatened he can be strong and protective, making him an excellent watchdog.
More details about this awesome breed, http://xrl.us/becaa4
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